Aug20 You Can’t Reason With Religious People (Pic)
 

A true believer just cannot be reasoned with. I’m truly an atheist, but atleast I keep an open mind. Not so open my brain falls out, but open none the less.

EDIT: Want proof of this? Look in the comments. There are people showing a complete lack of open mindedness or the ability to be reasoned with.

 
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  • James_Smith
    Here's some quotes from Atheists. For those of you that think the USA is a "Christian Nation", I'll be happy to go through the very long list I've taken these from and extract those of the founding father. Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, and others. Of course, none of you intellectual cowards wil try to disprove any of these. Better to ignore what you cannot answer, isn't it?

    Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived. Isaac Asimov

    Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of facts and logic. James Smith

    I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. Stephen Roberts

    When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord does not work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me. Emo Philips

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?Epicurus

    There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages. Richard Lederer

    Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do..And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! …But He loves you. George Carlin

    Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. Seneca the Younger 4 b.c.- 65 a.d.

    Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions. Blaise Pascal

    And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence.
    Bertrand Russell

    Do not pray in my school, and I will not think in your church. Unknown

    I do not think it is necessary to believe that the same God who has given us our senses, reason, and intelligence wished us to abandon their use, giving us by some other means the information that we could gain through them.
    Galileo Galilei

    Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. Unknown

    You can not convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it is based on a deep-seated need to believe. Carl Sagan

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence. Unknown

    We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.
    Gene Roddenberry

    The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
    George Bernard Shaw

    You are basically killing each other to see who has got the better imaginary friend. Richard Jeni

    I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. Doug McLeod

    The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church. Ferdinand Magellan

    Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer. Unknown

    A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. Albert Einstein

    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. Steven Weinberg
  • Jonas
    James will probly not right the book but will cross out Dorkings name and put his own. Or maybe he will right the bible and just say that when Jesus did good things he wasn't really there becoase he did'nt exist so how did he speak to people in the book then tell me this. It seems all we need to do is think and that's it. PLease think first, how did Jesus say things in the bible if he wasn't there was some one pretending to be Jesus you think there may be an impostor? Well I am not sure of this but the imposter was good and did good things. it was Jesus!
  • James_Smith
    You are totally ignorant POS. It's "write", not "right". And it's "Dawkins", not "Dorkins" but you are really a dork. Even after several corrections, you still can't spell the plural of jesus.

    You can't even understand that the people that wrote the bible were not even alive when jesus was supposed to have lived. There isn't one bit of evidence that jesus ever lived, but there is plenty of evidence that the entire jesus myth from virgin birth to crucifixion was stolen from other legends.

    But a totally ignorant mentally deficient bonehead like you can't be expected to understand that.

    Why hasn't some concerned christian kicked your ass and shot you in the head? All you have done is make deists look like sub-human morons. Trust me, your fellow deists are more inclined to that kind of violence in defense of their illusions than you can ever imagine.
  • Moses
    Good morning Smith,

    And what a fine morning it is. A morning for which to be thankful. For I have spent the past few days in hospital and am now relishing the freedom of my caravan. The naive doctors at the hospital put my sudden illness down to what they called a 'drug overdose'. I, however, know different. I bare them no ill thought for their mistake; it is what I would except from any thoughtless sinner so keen on what you people call 'science'.

    The reason I was in hospital, Smith, was because I was being punished by the Almighty. The reason for the said punishment, I believe, is that I have allowed you to continue you to broadcast your garbage on these here pages, to abuse verbally, racially, and sexually an honest servant of God; my comrade Jonas. Perhaps worst of all and most troubling to the Lord is that I have allowed you to continue living your life in the way you do.

    Self-hatred, homosexuality, racism, slavery, filth, evil. These are all words that I am afraid to say when I picture you in your house in Russia. The life of an intellectual, physical, biological, philosophical, coward. But have no fear brother, I will help you turn your life around!

    I am aware that you are an ageing sinner, knocking on the doors of hell who will soon spend eternity being sodomised by Satan. CHANGE YOUR WAYS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! LET JESUS INTO YOUR HOUSE AND SERVE HIM! DRINK THE JUICE OF GOD'S LOVE AND REPENT YOUR SINS!

    As you well know, I am a servant of God. At this very moment, I can feel His love flowing through my fingers and typing his words. Typing his message to you, you daft wanker, IN ORDER TO HELP YOU! Accept his love! Let's all join hands and stand together. Let's step in piece and harmony.

    The hatred you broadcast on these pages tells me many things about you. You are an old cretin, yet your words show your immaturity. Your naivety. Your fear. Your ignorance. Your cowardice. You are the 'totally ignorant POS', to use one of your own hateful phrases. You abuse Jonas but you are really talking to yourself! God has helped me see that. And he will help you too.

    We can take this journey together my brother. It will be the four of us - you, me, God, and Jesus. And we will all be happy for eternity.
  • Skreeran
    I am now convinced that you, Moses, cannot be anything but an atheist that is trying to make christian look worse. That's simply the only explanation. I live in Texas. I'm used to dense christians, but never in my life have I met a theist as daft as you are representing yourself to be.

    Let me ask you this: Why would god punish YOU, putting you in the hospital (which is lolworthy, by the way. It totally WASN'T the heroin), when I'm living life just fine? I regularly mock religion and christians, and I'm feeling just fine. Why doesn't god punish me? Why would he put his "faithful servant" (that would be you, apparently) in the hospital, while I'm living large and happy?
  • James_Smith
    Great questions! You don't really think Moses is going to answer any of them do you?

    This weaselly little coward has dodged every question put to him. It's clear that being a disgusting human being doesn't bother him at all.
  • James_Smith
    Moses, I've missed you. First let me say "Fuck you, asshole!"

    Now, that I have said all that you are capable of understanding, I'll continue. Here's a quote from someone that you stupid shithead deists like to use as an example of your own muddle-headed thinking with "Pascal's Wager". Remember, the one that Jonas thought was a name, "Pascal Wager"? The one that has been demolished so thoroughly by countless intelligent people.

    "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." Blaise Pascal

    That's one thing he said that's irrefutably true. Your own posts have shown that.

    I'm not surprised that a homosexual drug addict such as yourself was in the hospital. What surprises me is that you survived. Was there no one there that practices euthanasia? All it would have taken was a slight overdose of some readily-available drugs. Or even an injection of air bubbles into your bloodstream; undetectable and deadly. A quick shot and the world is now a better place! You could have thought of it as your last blow job. LOL. Naturally, you are more accustomed to giving those than receiving, but that's the christian way, isn't it?

    It's a good thing for you there is not an "almighty". If there were, you would never have needed a hospital. One flash of lightning and boom! Crispy christian! Marinated Moses!

    As usual, you idiots think of things you would like to believe and then decided it must be true, otherwise, how would you have thought of it? You have decided, with no evidence at all, that I live in Russia. But that's not surprising, everything else you believe has no evidence, either. So what's one more lie in your collection of falsehoods?

    Speaking of those, there is no god, no jesus, no satan, so there's noting there for any rational person.

    If you want to see where I really live, let me purchase you a ticket. Then you can meet me face-to-face and we will see how brave you are when you aren't hiding behind your keyboard. That's another difference between a hypocritical coward like you and a genuine, thinking, logical person like me. I'm not afraid to back up my statements with my money, my skin, and even my life.

    You are no servant of anything but your own twisted, drug-addled imagination. All you feel flowing through your fingers is the semen of your latest homosexual lover. But that's the closest you'll ever get to a "heavenly" experience.

    You speak of cowardliness? But you are the one who refuses to answer even one of my direct questions. You are the one that ignores my offer of a free "trip of a lifetime". You are really a total piece of shit. I abuse Jonas because he likes it. That's why he, like you keeps coming back for more. You are both masochistic liars, cowards, and morons.

    I'm aware that all of this has been well beyond your intellect to comprehend, so once more, at your level. Fuck you, fuck your stupid god, and your "jeeesuuuuus", too.
  • Jonas
    What is POS? You speek of violence a lot James you are violence man for sure and for real. This why you lost all hair and because of Jesus. PLease take some time and thisnk. It is not write that you speek this way. You are angry and vile it seems and maybe because you are bald. Think and see if this is true.

    We need to be more like Jesus /but not when he was in the temple/ ha ha! The you could be in a life that was good b ut you knock on th gates of hell and ask to burn. PLease think then turn and face Jesus

    It is you whose ignorant!!! Why can't you think James. You will need to think if you can write a book or maybe I will help you right this!
  • James_Smith
    Let’s All Have Faith

    If something cannot be proven, there is likely to be a reason for it. If something cannot be seen, it can still be proven. Gravity cannot be see by any of our current technology. But its effects can be seen and measured. Just try dropping an iron weight on your toe. Or do you think that was a spiritual effect by god to punish you for being stupid enough to drop it on your toe?

    Gravity can be measured, its actions observed and even predicted. I knew that weight was going to hurt your toe. You probably did too, so you decided not to drop it on your foot.

    “But you must have Faith!” OK, I am willing to test that. Are you?

    I invite you to the roof of my building. It’s not too high, between 25 and 30 meters (80 to 90 feet). I hand you a large belt and tell you to put it on. As you are buckling it, I explain that it is an anti-gravity belt I have built. I add that it repels gravitational force, just as ordinary magnets repel each other.

    Like magnets, the closer it is to the earth, the more powerfully it works. So, when you first step off the roof, you’ll fall fairly fast. But as you near the concrete parking lot below, you’ll slow down until you stop just a short distance above the ground. Way more fun than bungee jumping, right?

    Now go on, step off the roof. What? You want to know how it works? I explain that the entire secret was revealed to me by a space alien in a series of visions. He also told me that drinking too much alcohol was bad for me. I know that to be true, so this has to be true, too. It’s too complicated for you to understand anyway. You need me to interpret its action for you and for you to have faith.

    Yes, I’ve already tried it, now it’s your turn. Off you go now. Take a leap of faith.
  • Jewdus
    :-(
  • James_Smith
    OK, disprove even ONE statement in this video. Pit yourself against some logic and facts and see how your "faith" stands up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yr4gpuyC_4&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_stronger_r2-2r-3-HM

    When you have a rational answer, I'll reply. But I suspect you will be unable to make any reply that doesn't eventually come down to, "you must have faith because some things cannot be proven."

    I have an answer for that, too. I's currently writing it for my blog. http://brazilbrat.blogspot.com/
  • Jewdus
    I am interested about your book. What is the contents going to be? A bitter litany of impotent insults to good, god fearing folk? the phrase "intellectual coward" repeated 56,000 times? If you are gleaning material for this book from this site then I expect that that is exactly what it is going to contain.

    I am quite offended that you are now refusing to answer any of my posts unless they are "intelligent". That seems unfair. Jonas and Moses have been babbling shite for days and yet you still persist on answering their nonsense.

    Ray Comfort is one of the most forward thinkers of our time. Right up there with Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and George W. Bush.

    Answer me this question: The most powerful man (human, that is, not Jesus or the Big Man upstairs) in the world has never not been a christian. That is clearly a sign from God.
  • James_Smith
    What the book will contain is a collection of quotes from deists. Not just the incredibly stupid ones and the nasty, violent ones, but the intelligent, insightful comment. That is if I ever get any of the latter.

    I responded to Moses and Jonas because I was collecting their responses. I have said that on here several times. Is there something about that repeated statement that is too complicated for you?

    Ray comfort is an idiot and a fool. But then, anyone that truly believes in any religion is either a fool, a liar, or a hypocrite. Very often, all three.

    How is that a sign from god? Making increasingly stupid statements like this tells me that you are as illogical and ignorant as other deists. You cannot understand the most basic principles of fact,s logic, and verifiable proof. But as a deist, these things are anathema to "faith".

    I'm finished with you, I have no time for another idiot on here.
  • Jewdus
    I think you need to calm down, Smith.

    I come to you with open arms to engage in a theological discussion and you react aggressively and cast doubt on my "intelligence, morality, and intentions". I think Jonas and Moses may have wound you up. Nevermind about those 2 fools, they are clearly 7th day adventists* who know little**.

    Proof of God is all around. Why, you are proof of God. You may retort with your big bang theories but, I ask you, what came before the big bang? Nothing? What was the catalyst for the big bang? Nothing?

    I urge you to read the teachings of Ray 'Mainstay' Comfort. His wisdom is unbounded. Watch this short video. Ray can say in 10 minutes what it would take me a lifetime to describe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWBC0AnAAT0

    * Wankers
    ** Absolutely nothing
  • Jonas
    ITS TRUE AND before evilution was even invented there was Jesus. the bible tells us of the way things were made and this did not include fish monkeys or magic bangs. Please read this then see. You can think of it too if that helps. it was hard for me too once then we lerned to think and now we know it is Jesuses way!
  • James_Smith
    I ask you for proof and you come back with the usual nonsense. You are as stupid as moses and jonas. I suspect this is because, like all deists, facts and truth have no place in your world view.

    "Proof of god is all around"? That's the normal ignorant argument given by all deluded religious people.

    When have I ever said anything about the "Big Bang"? As usual, when you deists have no logic or facts, you try to divert the discussion to something that was never mentioned in the first place.

    "Big Bang is yet a theory. Like all science, it is founded upon available evidence. And, like all science, it will be altered, confirmed, or discarded when more evidence becomes available. That's the difference between science and religion. Religion insists upon the same ridiculous ideas no matter what the evidence to the contrary.

    Comfort is an idiot and has no facts or evidence. If this post is all you have to offer, you are no more worthwhile than the other "2 fools" (your words).

    Until you have something worth reading to offer, you would be wise to not post any more comments. To quote Mark Twain (another atheist) "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."

    For certain, I will not bother responding to any more of your stupidities until you have something intelligent to say. I'm not holding my breath on that, either. I already have plenty of material for my book from this site. So I really don't need any more from you.
  • Unibot
    I think you folks have been trolled...
  • James_Smith
    If you mean the deists, you're right. Even after I told them (more than once) that they've been set up to extract really silly statements from them, they just keep going. It makes you wonder exactly how ignorant you can be and still manage to get on-line?
  • Jewdus
    I have been following this blog with interest for some time.

    Moses, Jonas, my brothers, while you do not organise your arguments well, I think you have some very valid and serious points.

    First and foremost, our Lord is our saviour, and we must love him more than anything in this, the world the great big man created. Secondly and foremost, we must show love to Jesus, for he gave himself unto every living man, woman, child and small boy on this earth. without him, none of us would be writing this blog, and I would not own a computer, PC World would not exist, for example.

    James Smith, I would like to try and reason with you in a way that Jonas and Moses seem unable. Moses, your spelling is lax at best.

    So James, as one of God's creations and an equal in every way, I bid thee challenge me.
  • Jonas
    You have the name of the devil desciple and should be banne d from here. James will you make this man banned from here?
  • godlessblogger
    First, I run this site, not James. Meaning I control user access.
    Second I wouldn't ban somebody over something like that. I am against
    censorship of any kind. I guess that explains why I've let you ramble
    on like an incompetent asshat for so long. I'd never ban somebody for
    speaking their mind. Controversy drives this blog and I want to
    promote discussion, not destroy it. If that guys username bothers you
    so much, leave. Besides, without Judas how would we have had redemption?
  • Skreeran
    Not to mention the fact that, while Judas Iscariot was the betrayer, there was also Judas of James (also known as Jude), another disciple of christ, said to be his brother.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Jude
  • Jonas
    I am glad you right of Jesus Skreenrang. We can help learn James for sure!
  • Skreeran
    James and I know a great deal of your book and your prophet.

    Certainly more than you do.

    I was a Christian until I was 16 years old. I knew the bible inside and out.

    And then...

    I realized that when I was "talking to god," that I wasn't hearing anything back. I began to look at my own beliefs, and I realized how little sense they made. I mean, had I been born in Saudi Arabi instead of California, I'd believe in Islam just as fervently as I did Christianity. I thought and thought and thought, and that was when I really began to examine just how evil the bible is.

    Trust me, Jonas, James has learned enough of the bible, as have I. It is you who should learn. We don't want to convert you, or to believe the same thing as us, or to think or act the same way we do. All we want you theists to do is THINK! Think for yourself! Don't just believe whatever you hear, but actually think about it! You might not come to the same conclusion as us, but just questioning what you know is a start.
  • James_Smith
    If I could ban anyone, you would be first with Moses right behind you. I don;t deal well with stupidity and you two are right at the top of the all-time ignorant fools list.

    Then I don;t care for cowards, either and you have both shown extreme intellectual and moral cowardliness. You are afraid to despond to even simple questions and pretend they were never asked.

    Here, try on this belt. Have faith, it will save you when you jump off the roof! ROFLMAO!
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